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		<title>Comment on Inflection.3 by Video resumes in the Australian marketplace at Michael Specht - discussions on HR, enterprise 2.0 and technology</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/03/13/inflection3/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Video resumes in the Australian marketplace at Michael Specht - discussions on HR, enterprise 2.0 and technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] area that still seems to be bubbling along slowly is the video resume, with opinions on if they are good or bad, we now even have our own player in the Australian market, Candidates [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Day (or Is That Nude Day?) by ATS.1 (Applicant Tracking Systems) &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/05/09/new-day-or-is-that-nude-day/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>ATS.1 (Applicant Tracking Systems) &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up where we left off on Friday, the Taleo-Vurv merger is a yawner. The Applicant Tracking Systems industry, home to a hundred [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on 080424 Daily Links by lshanon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/24/080424-daily-links/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>lshanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John.

I just want to clarify - I didn't trash SEO, in fact I advocated for it. My post was about services that claim to be SEO and are not. Developing a mirror site with your job postings is not SEO. That process is something more like a job posting visibility service, it gets your posting into the search engines, but often does not create traffic to the career site, where all the information about the employer is kept and where they have an opportunity to brand themselves. Often, these tools often do not improve the rankings of the actual career site. True SEO should have long-term value to the client's career site and their candidate acquisition process.  While there are reasons to use these job posting visibility services, I think HR consumers should be aware that it is not really SEO.

Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John.</p>
<p>I just want to clarify - I didn&#8217;t trash SEO, in fact I advocated for it. My post was about services that claim to be SEO and are not. Developing a mirror site with your job postings is not SEO. That process is something more like a job posting visibility service, it gets your posting into the search engines, but often does not create traffic to the career site, where all the information about the employer is kept and where they have an opportunity to brand themselves. Often, these tools often do not improve the rankings of the actual career site. True SEO should have long-term value to the client&#8217;s career site and their candidate acquisition process.  While there are reasons to use these job posting visibility services, I think HR consumers should be aware that it is not really SEO.</p>
<p>Laura</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networking Works Better, Marty by ckingsbury</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/22/networking-works-better-marty/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>ckingsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I _love_ cover letters. I actually read them before reading the resume, and we built our ATS to preserve what the candidate sent in for that reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I _love_ cover letters. I actually read them before reading the resume, and we built our ATS to preserve what the candidate sent in for that reason.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networking Works Better, Marty by ckingsbury</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/22/networking-works-better-marty/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>ckingsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny. I read what you're saying, nod my head in agreement, and yet.... I got what was probably the second most-important job of my career off a job board, and had a couple offers from that experience that were better than anything I found through TPRs or networking, and I had a half-decent network. More recently, I've hired my entire client service team off Craigslist, and have been very happy with the results, and even got a C-level hire out of a job board resume database, the sort of person for whom I'd have happily paid a TPR a hefty fee.

Now maybe I'm just the guy who survived the car crash because I *wasn't* wearing the seatbelt--the proper term for which is "dumb luck." But I also get to see thousands of recruiters hire candidates from job boards all the time. I've also spent $300 to post a really exciting, creative job description on an uber-targeted super-popular special-interest site, and got absolutely atrocious results. Do I wish I posted it on Monster or Dice instead? Well, the results couldn't have been much worse, though I suppose a hundred bad candidates are less useful than absolutely none. This was after networking had produced not enough results.

Of course, the seven steps you propose are excellent, and probably triply valid for someone trying to ascend within an organization. I do think 6 and 7 though will be opaque to a lot of people. It's sort of like when a chronically-single person asks a friend for advice on how to improve their dating life, and the friend says, "just be yourself!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny. I read what you&#8217;re saying, nod my head in agreement, and yet&#8230;. I got what was probably the second most-important job of my career off a job board, and had a couple offers from that experience that were better than anything I found through TPRs or networking, and I had a half-decent network. More recently, I&#8217;ve hired my entire client service team off Craigslist, and have been very happy with the results, and even got a C-level hire out of a job board resume database, the sort of person for whom I&#8217;d have happily paid a TPR a hefty fee.</p>
<p>Now maybe I&#8217;m just the guy who survived the car crash because I *wasn&#8217;t* wearing the seatbelt&#8211;the proper term for which is &#8220;dumb luck.&#8221; But I also get to see thousands of recruiters hire candidates from job boards all the time. I&#8217;ve also spent $300 to post a really exciting, creative job description on an uber-targeted super-popular special-interest site, and got absolutely atrocious results. Do I wish I posted it on Monster or Dice instead? Well, the results couldn&#8217;t have been much worse, though I suppose a hundred bad candidates are less useful than absolutely none. This was after networking had produced not enough results.</p>
<p>Of course, the seven steps you propose are excellent, and probably triply valid for someone trying to ascend within an organization. I do think 6 and 7 though will be opaque to a lot of people. It&#8217;s sort of like when a chronically-single person asks a friend for advice on how to improve their dating life, and the friend says, &#8220;just be yourself!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Measuring What We Missed by 080415 Daily Links &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/15/measuring-what-we-missed/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>080415 Daily Links &#124; johnsumser.com: Recruiting News and Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global SEO Strategies You&#8217;ll be tempted to think that Nicole St. Martin doesn&#8217;t agree with today&#8217;s article on SEO [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Status Report .2 by martone</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/06/status-report-2/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>martone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sumser!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Status Report .2 by Mark Hornung</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/06/status-report-2/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hornung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their loss, John. It is hard, though, for those who tell truth to power. But as you write, look to tomorrow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their loss, John. It is hard, though, for those who tell truth to power. But as you write, look to tomorrow!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inflection by Moises</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/03/11/inflection/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Moises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful post.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Blue Chip by Amitai Givertz</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/04/04/blue-chip/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Amitai Givertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To your point: "Of course, my value laden precision targeted bulk email would never be spam, right?"

Basically there are two types of email item. The first is the message we receive from someone we know and recognize and the second is the item we receive from an unknown sender, the Recruiting Roadshow perhaps. 

Likewise there are basically two forms of email content. The first contains information we need, want, should have or in some other way has value, currency. The other is the untimely, the irrelevant, the unwanted and the distracting.
 
The problem [and the payoff] is that unlike other forms of communication email is direct. It has the potential to please or pester.

On balance which you rather receive: Untimely, irrelevant, unwanted and the distracting stuff from someone you know, recognize and even trust or valuable and current information that you need or should have that is sent -- unsolicited -- from a perfect stranger?

The problem with bulk mail is that it is hit and miss. Some recipients will view the message as annoying others will receive it happily. The same person may respond differently on different days, who knows? 

The point is that if the mailing "pays for itself" the mission has been accomplished. Collateral damage comes with the territory. If the intent of the sender is decent but the message is poorly timed how is that different from a useless piece of mail from someone we know and trust, waste that we junk without thinking twice? And, if you are immediately removed from future mailings when you ask to be isn't that a transaction of trust?

Nice blog, John. 'Bout time we had you back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To your point: &#8220;Of course, my value laden precision targeted bulk email would never be spam, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically there are two types of email item. The first is the message we receive from someone we know and recognize and the second is the item we receive from an unknown sender, the Recruiting Roadshow perhaps. </p>
<p>Likewise there are basically two forms of email content. The first contains information we need, want, should have or in some other way has value, currency. The other is the untimely, the irrelevant, the unwanted and the distracting.</p>
<p>The problem [and the payoff] is that unlike other forms of communication email is direct. It has the potential to please or pester.</p>
<p>On balance which you rather receive: Untimely, irrelevant, unwanted and the distracting stuff from someone you know, recognize and even trust or valuable and current information that you need or should have that is sent &#8212; unsolicited &#8212; from a perfect stranger?</p>
<p>The problem with bulk mail is that it is hit and miss. Some recipients will view the message as annoying others will receive it happily. The same person may respond differently on different days, who knows? </p>
<p>The point is that if the mailing &#8220;pays for itself&#8221; the mission has been accomplished. Collateral damage comes with the territory. If the intent of the sender is decent but the message is poorly timed how is that different from a useless piece of mail from someone we know and trust, waste that we junk without thinking twice? And, if you are immediately removed from future mailings when you ask to be isn&#8217;t that a transaction of trust?</p>
<p>Nice blog, John. &#8216;Bout time we had you back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inflection 8 by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.johnsumser.com/2008/03/24/inflection-8/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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